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Motel confessions
Posted by: Sean O'Neill, Tuesday, Oct 9, 2007, 10:05 AM

The temptation is strong. You know that many motels have an occupancy limit of four persons to a room, assuming there's two beds. And you know that it's typically against the rules to sneak your children into your room—especially if your children are under the age of 12.

So why not sneak your kids in? After all, the worst that can happen is that the neighboring guests will snitch on you and the front desk will ask you to leave.

The trick is as simple to pull off as it sounds: You park your car out-of-sight, drop by the front desk, and then check-in without mentioning your children. Next, you sneak your children into your room.

You may be tempted to pull this trick because, otherwise, you'll have to pay for a second room. And that presents its own problems, as Matthew Franck points out in the St. Louis Dispatch:

Unless a hotel can offer connecting rooms, my wife and I are faced with the prospect of splitting up and dividing the kids, like picking teams on a playground. And deciding who gets the fussy baby can ruin not just a vacation, but a marriage.

Sure, there are a few downsides to this approach.

Most melodramatically, will firefighters know to look for your kids if they haven't been mentioned at the front desk?

Then there's an ethical issue. You don't want to feel like a cheater.

Maybe it would be better to own up to the kids at the front desk, and see if the front desk manager will let the matter slide, allowing you to stay as a family in only one room while remaining on the up-and-up.

Then again, you may feel like a sucker if the clerk at the front desk is a stickler for the rules and insists that you book another room.

Yet another option is to go to an extended-stay hotel instead. These properties, originally aimed at business travelers, now offer large suites and amenities for parents and kids, as Budget Travel recently reported.

If you have thoughts, feel free to post a comment below.

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Reader Comments

Great title! Sneaking in the kids was a classic tactic of my parents when we went on family vacations.

I stayed at a Residence Inn recently and was impressed by the amenities, especially the full breakfast free every morning.

Posted By Josh on October 9, 2007, 11:35 AM

funny, but I have just finished traveling with a family of 5 and we gladly got 2 hotels rooms. Why? Well the 'children' ranged in ages 22-26 and large. The rooms only had 2 double beds and with 2 large boys and one girl, we hated having to put 2 people on the floor. So, we really enjoyed not having 2 people on the floor to trip over and the extra bathroom was a treat.

Posted By Margot Stegmaier on October 11, 2007, 11:37 AM

I think you're missing the point. Those are not children, but adults. When we've brought our 3 kids, now 8, 11, and 14 we've either split up between 2 rooms or refrained from telling the front desk about the 5th person. At one hotel in London, after the 3rd adult in our party missed her flight, we had to put our then 13 year old in a room alone! They refused to change one room to a king bed (to allow for 3 people in the room) and could not get us in adjoining rooms. We arrived at midnight, so could not go out and find another hotel.

Posted By Julie Burke on October 11, 2007, 12:04 PM

Families of five have little attention paid to them. Fewer hotel rooms, fewer cabins on cruise ships. Heck, many internet travel sites won't even let you enter in a quantity of five. But the cabins and rooms and sites for five are there if you look just a little harder. So why should we do business with those that don't want our business? Why bother having to lie? Only patronize those that cater to us family of fivers! Lost revenue is a great motivator for change.

Posted By Bob on October 11, 2007, 12:39 PM

I travel 40 weeks out of the year with my two children and wife. I hardly ever mention that I have kids with me and once inside the room I call the desk and ask for a crib. No one asks questions or looks crosseyed. They just serve the customer. I think this sneaking thing is a thing of lets say the 70s? Anyway, a dog would be a more huge event than kids because hotels DO charge extra for animals. Then again, maybe it is WHERE we stay not HOW we stay.

Posted By David Woods on October 11, 2007, 1:06 PM

When I would travel with a family of 5, I would take a twin size air mattress for the youngest. In the US I brought the electric pump. Some chains would allow a rollaway bed but they are not guaranteed and we've had to cobble together a bed from cushions and pillows when they have run out. If I can't get a "family suite" in European hotel rooms it is better to divide since the rooms are so small it is impractical to fit 5 where barely 3 can fit.

Posted By Mo on October 11, 2007, 1:25 PM

I travel frequently with my son-in-law, daughter, and two young granddaughters. We prefer two rooms but typically inn keepers will not guarantee adjoining rooms.(We like the extra space, amenities, privacy, and second bath). This means that we are consistently searching out family suites. It is also true that we make reservations for ground level only to arive to being assigned upper levels. If getting the travelers' business is a goal it would be wise to be more acconnodating.

Posted By Colleen Hedrick on October 11, 2007, 2:00 PM

I used to work at the Coice Hotel chain and when large families came in with 5 prople, I would ask them if they would like to rent a roll-a-way cot. This might not work on a weekend from May to Oct unless you call ahead and reserve the room and cot.
I also kept a supply of local travel discount coupons in my personal drawer and offered them to families who needed two rooms. This could be a savings of at least $60. Friday and Saturday nights during May thru Oct. are usually booked up and it is difficult to extend special arrangements UNLESS you book ahead. We could only accept coupons if we were not %80 full. Arrive before 4PM and you have a better chance of using your coupons.

Posted By Joyce A. Carlin on October 11, 2007, 4:19 PM

We were always lucky to be able to use only one room for our family of five over the years. With a limited vacation budget, we
would just all pile into one room - nobody complained including the hotels. The last time we did this,however, was on a cruise with 3 college kids in an inside room, no window, and using a rollaway. It was tough to use the bathroom during the night but we still talk about that trip, the smelly close quarters, and continue to have a good laugh. That was 5 years ago and what a great memory!

Posted By mary crawford on October 11, 2007, 7:35 PM

My family of 5 often travels and if we are driving we take a small cot that folds up into a bag like a side line chair at a sports event. It fits in a hotel room better than a roll-away and is not noticable when it is carried in. If we are flying to a location, I call or email in advance to ask if they have a "family room". Independent hotels sometimes have an odd shape room with an extra third bed. When the kids were young I didn't want them staying alone somewhere else in a hotel that wouldn't guarantee adjoining rooms. We claim 2 kids when we check in. In Europe we found a lot of flexibility when we requested a family room when making reservations. Not always available, but worth asking for.

Posted By k ogden on October 13, 2007, 2:14 PM

Wow, I doesn't anyone else have more than three kids?? I have five and they are 16,15, 13, 11, and 9. When they were little, they were so close in age that we would lay four crossways on the bed and have one with us... ah those were the days! Since they outgrew that for awhile we started getting two adjoining rooms and then tried out the "family suites" which a lot of times were not much more bedspace than the regular two queen sized rooms. Lately we have been doing a lot of vacation rentals, cabins, cottages... We can usually find very nice ones for about the price of two hotel rooms, and instead of cruddy chain style ammenities, these places are usually gorgeous! A lot more bang for your buck! It takes a little more hunting on the internet, but I've found wonderful places all over the country, even in the heart of large cities to cottages on the ocean, to cabins in the mountains. The only time we stay in a normal hotel anymore is when we need a one night stay by the airport!

Posted By Kara O'Neal on October 14, 2007, 9:43 AM

I come from a family of 5 kids and am now engaged to a man who has 4 kids with sole custody.
We are trying to plan a vacation together and finding it IMPOSSIBLE to get affordable accommodations. It's rediculous.
Nobody will guarantee connecting rooms and it's not right. They are ages 6 - 14 and need supervision. It's not safe to force any kid(s) to be in a hotel room with out an adult and it's not fair and insensitive to expect the adults to separate.

I find it VERY BAD BUSINESS for hotels to not accommodate larger families.

This really makes me mad.

I should not have to choose between sleeping with my husband and keep our kids safe.
This is very insensitive of the hotel industry.

The larger suites are also VERY EXPENSIVE and there is no privacy.

Posted By Karen on June 26, 2008, 5:43 PM

As a mother of four, I've had the headache of finding hotel rooms that will fit us. So I started SixSuitcaseTravel (dot) com. My site lists over 2500 hotels in all 50 states that can accommodate six. Check it out! The hotel listings are free and I give direct links to the hotel websites so you can book direct.

Posted By Theresa on April 18, 2009, 9:47 PM

Or just tell them that you will not stay at their establishment unless they make arrangments to suit your needs.

You are the consumer here, not them

Posted By ffrfrf on November 2, 2010, 4:46 PM

So many complain, while Theresa actually does something about it! Way to go!

Posted By Mike on November 2, 2010, 5:02 PM

working at the front desl of a hotel...we notice alot more than people think we do. i know you just snuck in 4 kids and 3 dogs in the back door. and it irks me. it makes me not want to be nice and help when i know you are trying to cheat me. personally i would let it go if you told me but because you done it that way i will try to charge the regular rate for all that..just be truthful. i travel and i know how expensive it is. i am more than willing to help because in the end my manager only wants to know how many rooms were sold last night not how many extra fees i got out of people.

Posted By cterry on November 2, 2010, 5:03 PM

I came from a family of five and when us kids were little, we always stayed together in the same room. I don't remember any hotel ever having a problem with it, even when the oldest of us got to be teenagers. My parents never once snuck us in, and often asked for extra cots/bedding etc.

I think families are generally the exception to the four-only rule as long as there aren't a lot of kids. In my experiences, most places don't bat an eye.

Posted By Someone on November 2, 2010, 5:49 PM

I was a motel maid in the mid 70's. The women were pigs and messier than any child could be. then they would complain that the room was not cleaned. i am not their personal maid. The motel took cats and the litter left on the floor was something else. this was during a streaking craze and one man would stand at the windows with drapes open naked and want me to bring towels to him. i sent in Hank the owner. he stopped that in a hurry. business men would come and i would find under the mattress under panties, booz and pent house mags. when my husband and i would travel we would tell the desk we needed a crib.

Posted By OWLET on November 2, 2010, 6:31 PM

I'm a desk clerk also and I understand what guest go throw .I have ask my manager & owner about having maybe two kings in the ajoining rooms for big familys,they just walk off telling me "I don't know what I'm talking about".hay I'm a american and I need spaces. Don't tell me what you want me to hear cause I'm not stuiped!!!! If you pay you should get what you need!!!! and at a good price so you will come back again and again!!!!

Posted By ruby welch on November 2, 2010, 8:19 PM

I'm a desk clerk also and I understand what guest go throw .I have ask my manager & owner about having maybe two kings in the ajoining rooms for big familys,they just walk off telling me "I don't know what I'm talking about".hay I'm a american and I need spaces. Don't tell me what you want me to hear cause I'm not stuiped!!!! If you pay you should get what you need!!!! and at a good price so you will come back again and again!!!!

Posted By ruby welch on November 2, 2010, 8:19 PM

In February I took the family to disneyland for 2 days. I was able to find a room for 69$ a nght with 3 beds. Which was nice for the 6 of us, and did'nt have to pay extra for the kids really, because most hotels match prices from other hotels so I just looked around for the cheapest one and told the hotel where I wanted to stay that price and they matched it!! And we got free brreakfast in the morning!

Posted By Heather on November 2, 2010, 8:24 PM

Many hotels will rent a banquet room,or meeting room that isn't being used to larger families. There is no bath,everyone sleeps on roll away beds,but the family is together.

Posted By Mary on November 2, 2010, 9:17 PM

Heather I want to take my kids to disneyland this year where did you stay at?

Posted By Mommax7 on November 2, 2010, 11:23 PM

There are 5 people in my family (myself, my wife, and 3 kids ages 9, 13, 14.) We travel often and have to stay in Hotels (never Motels) and never anything less than a 4-star. We sometimes get one room with 2 dbl queen beds and take our air mattress, and sometimes we get two rooms and the kids stay in one room by themselves. The rooms more often than so, are not adjoining rooms, but when we make our reservations and check-in we simply ask to have the rooms within as close proximity to one another as possible and usually they can accommodate that request. We've never had a problem with the kids being alone in the room. Of course our kids are well behaved too and know the 'rules', we can trust them. And when the kids have stayed in the same room as us with 2 dbl beds, we have never been charged any extra, whether it's 5 people or 1 person, we pay the same rate. As long as the room is paid for the clerk isn't going to kick you out, unless you are causing other problems.

Posted By GR on November 3, 2010, 1:19 AM

I agree it is hell to split families and even worst to put barely teens by themselves. I would suggest using hotel chains like Best Westerns that offer king size rooms with hide-a-beds. That one the family stay together and no one is on the floor. Downside not all major hotels offer the same style room, but it never hurts to check.

Posted By CW on November 3, 2010, 3:37 AM

I am a desk clerk at a hotel and I wouldn't even let my dog, let alone a child/adult, sleep on the floor in a room here. The carpets, despite being vacuumed, are nasty and lord only knows what's been on them. The housekeeping horror stories I could share with you all would curl your hair. When a guest checks in as one or two occupants then comes to desk requesting extra sheets, blankets, and pillows it's a good bet they're sneaking in more people. Most folks don't realize we are observing them on the security cameras as they do this. Worse yet are when they don't declare a pet and sneak these in too. If they've paid with cash, I can't do anything about it but to call room and let them know there's a fee/policy. But, if they've paid with a credit card, I can easily tack on the pet fee ($10, reasonable) and get an additional authorization on it. :) We desk clerks aren't stupid!

Posted By Heather on November 3, 2010, 3:51 AM

Remember when you had to call somebody at a phone booth collect and when the recorder said pls say your name you yelled "hey pick me up at whatever" and the person knew it was you..and picked you up..hey it's still cheating.

As a fireman, if a room had children and a fire was going on, we hit those rooms first. What if your child is snuck in? We don't go to those rooms and if there was a fire, your child will come up missing and/or worse.

Just pay the extra--or like the article suggests, rent a room with extended stay or pay for a double room so you can open the door to the other room where you put the kids.

Anytime a person cheats like this and has children, what do you think the children are learning..yep, it's cool to cheat. Don't beat them when they come home with bad grades, the daughter gets pregnant or your son is on drugs. You taught them to lie and it's ok.

Don't ruin your family. Be honest in all things. A cheater is a cheater.

Posted By BartsBrother on November 3, 2010, 4:26 AM

Heather I also want to take my kids to disneyland next year where did you stay at please?

Posted By Margaret on November 3, 2010, 5:35 AM

I never use this hotel because they charge more and they charge for kids unless they are tiny babies. I go to Motel 6 and they never raise an eye and they never charge for kids. I am real picky about the cleanist of the room but I check that before I even get comfortable. Other than that I do seak in my oldest once in a while because it already cost you $70.00 a night for two adults but to add a another adult.. that will be about $90.00 a night. Thats more a day than my rent and if I went to Laughlin.. I could stay there the whole month for $10.00 a day in a bigger hotel. Thats three months worth.

Posted By Rosetta on November 3, 2010, 6:20 AM

All you guys siiting up here stating that it urks you or bothers you that people do the things that they do.... YOU ALL SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!!!! you all are not gods gifts to the whole. You can not tell me you have never stole something, or lied, or didn't BULLY someone while growing up, or throw trash on the floor, or even bad mouth someone because your having a bad day. If you were so perfect.. Jesus wouldnt have had to die for our sins. Now without the biblical talk you ALL have done something, somewhere that was wrong or against the law. We are not all perfect and we all need to put a mirror up in our faces everyonce in awhile. If you are a fireman and a fire was in the hotel that your family was in.. you know you would break that door down first instead of getting the kids down the hall from your family. If you work for a hotel.. You know that you would give your family the best clean room and a discount or even for free even though someone had to pay the full price for five people. I have seen this stuff happen. Its human nature to do for someone better like your friends and family, than total strangers. People are broke these days and sometimes they rather sneek there kids in because they will have money to eat or to buy that grandmother some roses before dying. Because that was her last wish. She wanted to see all her grandkids and wanted some roses right before she died off the planet. THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!!!

Posted By Rosetta on November 3, 2010, 7:07 AM

Well we have 6 kids and almost always stay at a suite. 90% of the time it cost less then two rooms anyways. As long as you can book a little in advance these are never hard to find. Soon though this will not be enough. Our rooms usually have one room with a queen, a pull out couch and then our king room. 6 is easy and with two other small girls 1 and 3. Harder to find is the suite with two queen's a king and a pull out but most places we can find these but have to book way in advance.

Posted By Toby on November 3, 2010, 9:04 AM

We are a family of 8, 2 parents and 6 kids. We always get suites but never hide the fact that we have kids. Their ages are 1, 3, 4, 6, 7, and 12 so spilting them up also myself and husband are split up as well. We bring the playpen and lots of blankets and everybody's pillow for a camp out in the living room area of the suite. The kids always like it and lots of blankets mean extra cushion and no one touching the floor lol!!!!

Posted By Cindy on November 3, 2010, 9:36 AM

I work at a moderately priced hotel that belongs to one of the top 3 hotel companies in the world.

Look people those restriction aren't put in to milk you out of your money. There are local laws that base occupancy on the number of beds and the amount of square footage in the room.

A family of 5 can survive in a 320 sqft room for one or two nights but really don't do it for more then that. If you are planning on spending a week some where for your sanity and your childrens as well don't try it!

Also please bring your own "Pack and Play" crib. No matter how hard we try it is hard to sanitize and care for them as well as we wish we could. Keep you kid safe and pack your own!!!!

Also don't assume that you will be given a "Roll Away" Bed. Since upgrading our beds from doubles to queens most hotels can not put them in the rooms because of fire codes.

I my hotel that has approximatly 145 rooms we have 20 sets of connected rooms. If you plan ahead at least by a couple of days we can block rooms with a connecting doors for you.

Oh and don't book through an internet wholesaler!!!!! Book with the hotel directly (you do not really save money 85% the time unless you are booking same day)We can not make changes to most indirect reservations so in order to get what you want... Call us!!!!

Extended stay properties have limits too! It just depends on the size of the room and how many beds! One king bed and a pull out sofa means no more then 4 peopla no matter the size of the suite!!!!

A little planning goes a long way when you are traveling with children. We understand the challenges probably more then you do, however we have spent a lot of time learning and planning on how to accomidate families so please do a little homework your self!

Oh and by the by.... Most major hotel chains don't charge a per person fee for occupany anymore. They will quote for 1 bed or 2 beds, and most of the time there is only a $10 difference and only on weekends.


Posted By E on November 3, 2010, 9:37 AM

On a simliar note:

My mom and I, through the years, have taken several cross-country trips (during moves) with up to 3 cats. We'll confess to sneaking them into hotels where they technically weren't allowed. (most of the time the stay was just overnight). They are all litter-trained, non-spraying, and declawed, so provided no risk of damaging the room, and sometimes it's hard to find a hotel that accepts pets, especially in small towns at 12 am. One thing we often did was try to get a room with an outside entrance, as that made sneaking them in easier.

In our defense, though, I will say that whenever possible we prefer to go the "legal" route by finding a hotel that does allow the kitties. We're also happy to pay a (reasonable) fee for bringing them in.

Posted By Shelly on November 3, 2010, 11:14 AM

I grew up with my parents booking the 5 of us in 1 room. 2 would be in each bed and 1 on the couch or even a pallet made on the floor. My parents were tight on money but still wanted to give us vacations. If nothing else was used but a few extra towels, I dont really understand why a person should pay extra for the same room.

Sneaking in animals was something I did only once, the hotel charged double the room rate for an animal and held a security deposit on top of it. For one night, I snuck in my tiny dog. I do see the problem there though. Animals have the propensity to create more damage.

Posted By Ashley on November 3, 2010, 11:39 AM

As a former manager of a hotel, we were told from higher up that we didn't guarantee a certain room, floor level of the room, adjoining rooms, etc. I disagreed with this policy and at the hotel I worked at we always tried to accomodate special requests. People make special requests for a reason, not just to make things difficult. For a family to request adjoining rooms just makes sense. If you have adjoining rooms, why would you not guarantee this to a guest. What do you have adjoining rooms for. If there is a problem on the motel/hotel level, complain to the people higher up, they will usually listen to the guest, but if you stay quiet and don't complain, nothing will change.

Posted By laurie on November 3, 2010, 11:40 AM

Actually while traveling as a family of 5 we found that everywhere we ever stayed (and there was a wide variety of motels/hotels/etc.) they were happy to bring a roll-away bed into our room with 2 double or queen sized beds. There was an extra charge, but it was always minimal (don't think any of them charged more than $25) and no one ever mentioned anything about laws prohibiting the number of people per room nor did they ever try and get us to pop for two separate rooms. Our daughters would share the big bed and our son would sleep on the roll-away. Makes for a cramped room, but at least you save lots of $$ not getting a second room and you know where your entire family is in case of emergencies.

Posted By Barbara on November 3, 2010, 11:56 AM

I have been in the motel business for 15 years, for
1 year as manager, 4 as clerk, and 10 as reservations
agent. When a motel tells you 5 or more not allowed
in the room its based on fire code occupancies enforced by their local fire marshall. If you ask nicely, some motels/hotels will let it slide, others will not! Just ask! Also the younger the children the better. It's also in place for your comfort. Six adults or large people were not meant for a room that only fits 4.
One lady stated she cannot believe the motels won't
guarantee rollaways,cribs,connecting rooms etc.
It's a liability and availability issue. If a motel only has lets say 5 sets of adjoining rooms,
and 3 are in use from stayovers, and 1 set was taken by a party that arrived at 4pm (you arrived at 8pm) and the night before; a water pipe burst in the remaining connecting room(flooding it and taking it out of commission, there goes your guarantee and you'd probably threaten to sue.
therefore; no guarantee. Same goes for cribs and rollaways. Even booking early won't help. The
motel has no idea what will happen 3 or 6 months
from now. For example their insurance carrier could say "No rollaways or cribs" or "NO liability insurance, PERIOD!". As far as "Take my business elsewhere", most motels(not all), say oh well. Especially in peak times they will sell the room anyway and your "Demands" are not worth the hassle.
I could write a book, and probably should. Travel and Booking motels. A primer for the people who think they know; but don't!


Posted By D agent on November 3, 2010, 12:18 PM

I was the night auditor at a Motel 6 for seven years. One night I had a woman arrive at 2:00 am with 24 children thinking she had a reservation for two rooms - a church group. Her credit card was bad, so I cancelled her reservation at 6:00 pm. She was extremely upset and I had to call the police. Not only did she insist that I sell her the two rooms, she demanded I provide her enough towels for her group.

Motel 6 wrote me up for that indiscretion. I quit soon after.

The same Motel 6 location was in the news for selling overcrowded rooms to coyotes for corralling illegal aliens.

Posted By mrsvoltaire on November 3, 2010, 12:32 PM

We are a large family. Five kids and 2 adults. We would like to rent a room and be able to stay together like in a Suite. We have been unable to find a hotel that can accomodate a large family in a 2 bedroom suite. We even used to rent a suite with a full kitchen, that had 2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, along with a twin size pull out bed in the living room and even they said that we can't have five kids in that room. Only 4. That makes it really hard for us to go on vacation.

Posted By Sara on November 3, 2010, 12:40 PM

As a motel manager, the reason we have pet friendly rooms and non pet rooms is for the safety for the next guest. Have you thought of what is does to sneak a pet into a non pet room and the next guest who checks in has an alergic reation. Some guest alergeries are so bad, it could be a month earlier the pet was in the room and all the linen laundried and the room vacaumned everyday and the guest can still have a reaction.

Posted By Loraine on November 3, 2010, 1:07 PM

I marrtied a woman with one child and I had two from a previous marriage. To vacation comfotably, not only did we pay for two rooms, we usually took a "friend" so one of them didn't feel like a "fifth wheel" . As we now have 6 grandchildren, we settled the issue by buying an RV with 2 slide outs. Healthy, happy times-----

Posted By Just Me on November 3, 2010, 1:41 PM

I'm extremely allergic to cats, so it's important to me to stay in a facility that does not allow pets, period. I love dogs, but still prefer to stay in pet-free hotels because some dog owners don't ensure that their dogs are clean. Flea bites are not fun.

As for the folks griping about having to pay extra when they have a large number of children--stay elsewhere. The rest of us are not responsible for the size of your family. If you can't afford the kids, don't have them. There's nothing worse than unsupervised or misbehaved children in a hotel or on a plane or in a restaurant...

Posted By Jim on November 3, 2010, 1:45 PM

My family is a family of 4 my parents and me and my brother. When we would travel we usually didn't have any problems with the room. There was usually more than enough space on two beds for all of us. Usually though unless there was a pull out I would sleep on the floor didn't want to sleep with my wiggly brother. I had to go two Germany twice last year for medical treatments and my parents had to go with me. At first we stayed in a hotel that wasnt cheap we asked around and the hotel we were staying at gave us the answer. They told us of a nice hotel with extended stay suites. The place was 3 times the size it had doors between rooms and its own small kitchen. The price for a month was the price for 2 weeks at the first hotel and it was much nicer. You had to stay a week to get that rate but for the price you could leave early and be ahead. The trick is you just have to ask most people want to help. Another thing that happened my mom wanted to soak in a big tub and asked the place if there was somewhere she could go to do it they had her pay 10 dollars and use one in a empty high end suite. So it never hurts to ask sometimes you get more than you expected.

Posted By Goose on November 3, 2010, 2:04 PM

Sorry for the double post. I was also going to stay Ive had to go to Philly for treatment over 20 times. My mom has to go with me because of the type of treatment. But we have been nice to everyone that works there just out of common courtesy. The 2nd time we showed up they recognized us and greeted us like long lost friends. They make sure we get a room that is smoke free they bring in a fridge and microwave no charge and give us a very good rate on the room just for treating them like humans. No joke one night I was walking around couldn't sleep I walked to the lobby and the desk person was looking for a charging cord in the box of cords that get left. She was looking for a PSP charger I had one in my room so I went up and got it for her she acted like she was amazed anyone would do that. She gave me some vouchers I cant remember right now what for exactly but it was food as a thanks for what I considered something simple. I guess I would rather err on the side of kindness and respect for someone and its sad to me that more people aren't like that.

Posted By Goose on November 3, 2010, 2:33 PM

My home famil consists of three grown up and betweent 2 and 4 children we generallly take in air mattresses and extra blankets it is only for a night so we dont believe it is a big deal. Most hotels have a complimentary breakfast but they dont pay enough attention to who belongs to what room so everyone eats free regardless..

Posted By Felish on November 3, 2010, 3:51 PM

Tried to book a hotel recently for 3 of us, 2 adults and 1 child (6yo). Tried a Best Western and a Residence Inn, both stated that 3 was over the limit for a room with a king bed or even 2 queen beds. We would hjave to book 2 rooms. WTH, especially with a 6yo. I was finally able to book at a Holiday Inn, but I had to book a room that had a King Bed with a Queen Sofa Sleeper. WTH? We have a King bed at home and on nights when he gets scared, he crawls in with us in the middle of the night. No big deal there is plenty of room.

Posted By CameronsDad on November 3, 2010, 3:59 PM

We have 3 children and we have never had a problem with only having 1 room; granted my children are of the ages 7, 12, & 14. They can still sleep in the same bed and we always tell the receptionist about our children. We may pay extra, but really, AREN'T OUR CHILDREN WORTH IT?

Posted By lynn on November 3, 2010, 4:45 PM

If you travel with your large family, you need to plan in advance and pay for the accommodations you require. If one child is a baby, that's OK, but when you have older kids, it is your responsibility to house them legally. If it's a family vacation and adjoining rooms aren't available, I think it's silly to whine that the parents have to separate. What are you going to do if you have all your kids in one room? Basically, you just don't want to pay for the room to accommodate your family. I agree that hotels should be more attentive to larger families - honoring requests for adjoining rooms, etc. The best accommodations for large groups are resort type condos or cabins. They may cost a bit more, but it is your responsibility to pay to house the number of persons you are traveling with.

One problem we had was on a huge family vacation on a cruise ship. Everyone had 2 to a cabin. Our son at the time was 19, not old enough to stay in a room by himself. He HAD to stay with us. Three adults in a tiny cabin with the tiny bathroom was very uncomfortable. We would have gladly paid for another cabin, but they would not let us. I guess my husband or I could have booked another cabin and just let him stay in it or one of us, but we decided to try it. It didn't work! We wouldn't do that again! Fortunately everyone is now over 21!

I have snuck my Chihuahua into a motel when we had an unplanned stay. I knew she wouldn't hurt anything, but I felt bad. I would have gladly paid, but they didn't allow pets at all. I read the post about someone travelling with several cats. I am extremely allergic to cats & would definitely be affected if a cat/cats had been in the room. =-)

Posted By Bea on November 3, 2010, 5:08 PM

We were fine till child number 3 came along, then we took a portable crib. After number 3 grew out of the crib the three slept in a bed together. When child number 1 turned 13 and child two was 10, we started taking a single sleeper blow up mattress and electric inflator. That all fit in a backpack that number 3 carried around. It always made people crazy at airport security and customs. We have always asked for two queens and if asked declared 4. We always enter in dispersed groups. No one has ever questioned us.

Posted By dreifma on November 3, 2010, 5:12 PM

The most memorable vacation in my & my childrens memory,is one we took to Washington, D.C.to visit and see the many sights!We stopped enroute,in Pa.making a reservation at the Holiday Inn near the Washington Cathedral.We had 7 children at the time,which my husband mentioned on the phone,however,upon arrival,our reservation was refused by the desk clerk,and we were turned away.We were so angry ,we turned around,left the city that night,drove all night,arriving late the following day at a campground,which was also on our itinerary. I vowed then to never again stay at a Holiday Inn! I sent a letter of complaint for which I never received a response.

Posted By Marta Heldenberg on November 3, 2010, 6:28 PM

My husband and I have 4 children, when they were little we would tell hotels that we had 2 kids not 4. This would then make us have to get 2 rooms. We were on a budget and hotels were only a nessesary thing, not a "fun" time. I beleive hotels need to change the rules for bigger families. i think suites should be available for families at a discounted rate if the kids are under 18.

Posted By colette snyder on November 3, 2010, 7:53 PM

Colette,
Hotels still need to cover the costs of cleaning and having staff in and the heat and electric for that room that you rented. For the hotel that I work at to sell a room under 72 dollars would not even cover the staff that has to work to clean the room, run breakfast and work at the desk. Not telling the hotel the correct number of guests in the room is a BIG safty issue. I have worked 8 years as a Guest Service Rep and if we know of any handi capped or children and there is an emergency that we get to those rooms first, but not letting the hotel know the number of people in the room, you risk alot.

Posted By Beth on November 3, 2010, 8:08 PM

I work in a motel and so I've heard all the stories . About sneaking in pets and children . Everybody can think of one . I have to fix everything people tear up , and clean the really messy ones up . Every pet room gets the carpet cleaned and gets fogged with pesticide . One week lost revenue , because you sneak your pet in and think it's justified . What if your dog bites the housekeeper . Animal control , lawsuit and possibly a charge of defrauding an Inn keeper . Are just a few of the things you may face . Beside the extra charges . And they can kick you out without a refund . Maybe you should get an RV . My boss would just like to rent his rooms . Be straight , and get the room .

Posted By Duane on November 3, 2010, 8:55 PM

I get your point and your article is true. My parents did that once.

Posted By dejshia on November 3, 2010, 8:59 PM

I NEVER thought about NOT having family together in motels or hotels or cabins or cottages! We traveled alot as kids and for many years before my own kids taking our near pure breed cat with us sneaking her in with her food and litter box cleaning up in the morning like no cat was there plus she was flea controlled. The kitty even went inside any type of mall or restaurant as it looked like I was carrying a fancy bowling bag. Then we took our 1st child since an infant with their own travel bed that looked like we had a big sleeping bag with the kitty. WE ARE FAMILY! We just never thought of separate rooms as it NEVER occurred to us! It's like going on vacation with your youth group who are very clean and leave the place spotless. But 2 rooms....that's crazy!!!

Posted By Anonymous on November 3, 2010, 9:01 PM

I am a manager front desk person
And i hate when people pay less and sneak more people in the room. Like i dont know. We know! you cant sneak past us we are trained professionals. Remember we know! Plus it is a fire hazard issue people!!!! And a L and I issue

Posted By Dan on November 3, 2010, 9:01 PM

Traveling with a family of five economically is challenging. Adjoining rooms are great if available; paying double for the extra bathroom can be a blessing in itself. One and two bedroom suites are great for families greater than 4 but is pricey at the major destinations. Only if money grew on trees.

Posted By Hawaii 5-Oh! on November 3, 2010, 9:18 PM

Why are all the people with a lot of kids griping so much? It was your choice to have them.

Posted By Carrie on November 3, 2010, 10:01 PM

i always stay at hotel in the hilton portfolio. my fave is the embassy suites. for a family of five it is the best option. you get 2 queens or 2 doubles (depending on location) and a full size sleeper sofa. the 2 bedded suite holds 6 people and you get free breakfast. the king suite holds 5 people.

i have always believed that you should always always always tell the hotel the truth about how many people are in the room. in the event of an emergency (god forbid) the hotel gives a roster of the guests to the responders and they look for that amount of people. at the hilton portfolio of hotels children under 18 stay free in their parents room and if you stay at one of the suite hotels (embassy, doubletree suites, hampton, homewood) you can normally get 6 people in a single double bedded room.

Posted By cece on November 3, 2010, 10:34 PM

BARTSBROTHER: More power to you. It's refreshing to know that there are some of us honest folks still out there. ...Sound like ROSETTA is busy wrestling with a guilty conscience! ...A lot of folks don't seem to have one anymore.

Posted By Uneva on November 3, 2010, 10:46 PM

I come from a family of 7 (5 kids). We often rented two rooms but I spent many nights traveling sleeping in a sleeping bag on the floor. It was the budget way to travel as a family. Now I am a GM of a hotel, and I can spot a family (and some non-families)sneaking additional guests in. I also now know the reason for the hotels' policies. PLEASE do not lie about how many people are in your party. The hotel needs to know how many people are in the building in case of an emergency--- fire, earthquake, tornado, flood, etc... these DO happen.

ALSO Most hotel chains (all the reputable well known brands) only charge for the SECOND ADULT in the room. NOT each and every additional person. Children under 12 are free. The 13+ aged person is only charged for if it is the second person, and generaly speaking a smile and a kind word will get this to slide.

Join the hotel loyalty program (they are all free). Many loyalty programs have as one benefit that the second guest stays free.

And finally, if you are in a meeting and your wife and kids get locked out of the room and are not registered guests of the hotel, we are obligated BY LAW to protect your privacy and not allow them access to the room.

As a manager, If it were neccessary to require a second room, I would offer it at a greatly discounted rate... all you have to do is ask, be nice, and remember that hoteliers are there to help and serve you, but we are in business to make a profit. Our policies are in place to protect you, not to make more money off of you.

Posted By nate on November 3, 2010, 10:51 PM

I have been reading and pondering on what was being said. My husband used to travel a lot on vacations, but not in last four years and guess things might have changed since then. One thing we found that when we tried booking rooms using Expedia or other site we got lousy rooms. They were on third floor, no elevator and as far from front desk as you could get or very small or very strange rooms with toilet area so small my long legged husband had difficulty sitting or rooms were dirty or smelled of previously visiting pets and stains on carpet. We didn't get the room we requested (bottom level) because of our conditions (but not disabilty for we could walk) or requested exta pillows for he had to be propped up to sleep. Sometimes was just as bad making reservation in person or directly with hotel/motel. It was a crap shoot as to what kind of room you might get or the cleanliness of it. One I refused to set bare feet on carpet. One the tub/shower was filthy. One the door to room opened right next to bathroom where mirror was facing door so if door was opened and if anyone was outside could see you standing there outside as you were drying off from shower you were giving a free show. Others with room way out of the way was clean, we had free buffet breakfast and one other meal and the desk help so nice that we always left with a smile. Had we been traveling with children would have not stayed in some rooms and requested other one or left altogether. The woret was in high-rise hotel in OH on hottest summer in years reaching temps of 110 to 120 and there was no a/c and no rooms available in that chain and was forced to get another hotel lesser in quality, but cooler. We understood that things happen, but that was just too hot to bear with no windows to open and doubt it would have helped. When we did travel with others we always claimed the others for we needed extra towels, etc for them. Never a problem with booking two beds from the start in case we needed them and worked out well. Feel sorry for those that need more than room for four no matter what the ages.

Posted By itsagift on November 3, 2010, 11:03 PM

WOW
I have to tell you, I travel alot, and have traveled all my teenage thru adult life and not ONE SINGLE SOLITARY time have I EVER EVER experienced a hotel that asked for me to pay extra for my kids!!!
In fact , most places go OUT OF THEIR WAY to accomadate my kids , when they see they have laptops, or swim gear etc and are intelligent well mannered and behaved kids . Several times they have offered to keep the pool open longer hours for them, and have even brought them snax!

I traveled for years with my English fiance and he knew all the travel tricks and perhaps I picked it up from him , but even now , 10 years of being single AGAIN , w MORE kids.....not once have i had ANYONE ask me to pay EXTRA for my kids.!!! ONE TIME I did have someone ask about our tiny toy 4 pounder when I paid the deposit. They said it wasnt neccessary to pay since he was being carried , the pet rule applies to people (in general) w huge 120 pd Rottweiler type dogs....

Love to travel!!
Love the travel industry,
I have to say ...I learned something new today..did not know you were supposed to leave TIPS for your maid ??? huh? since when!? To the maid who took my $100.00 from the room....LOL
GIVE IT BACK!

Posted By StarAnna on November 3, 2010, 11:08 PM

I just saw the posts about the pets... I love animals, but I have to protect my guests... when I find evidence of a pet in a room, i have to take that room out of inventory for 2 days to thoroughly clean the room- steam cleaning carpets, drapes, the mattress.... ozone machine to clean the air, etc. Your unwillingness to board your pet can cost they next guest a good night sleep or an emergency room visit if you decide to "clean up the evidence" or the hotel revenue if you don't.

If you travel with a pet, stay in a pet friendly hotel.

Posted By nate on November 3, 2010, 11:11 PM

We needed a handicapped accessible room for my wife recently when on a trip - the hotel did not have one available, but did advise us that they had one in reserve because the television did not work; we said "not a problem", and gladly took the room. We were pleasantly surprised when the desk clerk knocked $10 off the room rate for the "inconvenience" of not having a television.

I make it a point to thank hotel staff, even the maintenance person, for what they do to make our stay a pleasant one.

Posted By Duane on November 3, 2010, 11:12 PM


Hi, We are a family of 2 adults 2 children ages 16 years and 3.5 years planning on traveling to Europe in March 2010. We are on budget. Any tips will be appreciated!!!

Posted By Amber on November 3, 2010, 11:46 PM

i used to work as a mangier /house keeping at a local motel in my area and i will admit it is hard to accommodate a large family but we made every effort to accommodate them as in we put a cot in their room no extra charge would ask them if they'd like a room with 2 beds and or a cot if we had a mom and a small child in a signal room ( one bed ) we would turn the bed so one side was against the wall i have had where i had to change the entire room to accommodate ppl with kids some places will do that but yes i know their are some that don't we allowed pets as well and cuting corners on cleaning we all do it but you get to know the rooms well and learn to look for evidence that a tub was used if it wasn't it was spray cleaned but that was the only place i ever cut corners on every room had clean sheets toilet scrubbed sink scrubbed and floor if i did just spray wipe the tub i used an antibacterial spray or just bleach water

Posted By dawn on November 4, 2010, 12:15 AM

People, quit whining about carting your gigantic family around. You chose to have all those kids, so suck it up, deal with it, and quit expecting the rest of the world to cater to you! If you have more people in your family, guess what? You have to pay extra to house them! Not rocket science. I agree that hotels should do their best to offer adjoining rooms to large families, but if you care so much about that, book ahead so you can reserve one! If you can't deal with having kids, quit popping them out.

Posted By Liz on November 4, 2010, 1:03 AM

We have 3 kids, all under 12 and we never had a problem with the front desk. When we book we have to book for 4 and the front desk tells us there is no extra charge for the kids, they just charge for the two beds. I think they like to know so they can try to place you in a room away from single guest or couples. This hotels range from the regular highway exit hotels to the fancy ones by airports, convention centers and big cities downtown areas. I do believe like Duane that the less you nag and complain the better your stay. When we find things that are wrong we try to just deal with it unless is not safe or just too much to ignore. Always say thanks, I love to see the surprised look on some hotel staff sometimes when they here me say thanks. They don't get it too often.

Posted By Cesar on November 4, 2010, 1:37 AM

First off from the hotel manager's view is that it is a SAFETY ISSUE and if they were a fire the fire fighters won't know to there were other or children in the room so you are putting you child's life on the line. It isn't that we are just trying to get that extra buck, admit it, it will take longer to clean that room because most families with children leave the room a mess because they figure I am paying for the room so what the hell I am not cleaning up after the kids. Housekeeper have to put up with cleaning up rooms with food every where, dirty diaper and that just the tip of the iceburg and on top of that you dont even leave a tip for them.

Posted By David on November 4, 2010, 1:42 AM

During my peak years as a pothead(now reformed, thank god) and in between apartments,we had to stay in a motel 6 (olympia/tumwater,wa area-"Olympia-its the water"-and pot maybe)for a few days until our new place was ready. after reading a few posts here, i now realize how wrong and inconsiderate it was, but me and my stupid crazy EX-GF Charlotte sneaked a couple of our cats into the street level entrance. it was a matter of quickly stuffing them in a cardboard box before leaving the car, then dashing the few feet to the door, then once inside, making sure that they couldnt jump onto the windowsill, and keeping TV loud enough to drown out any meowing. we also had a few rubbermaid bins, some filled with clothes and belongings, and a couple stuffed with several 1-3 foot high pot plants that were left in the bathroom with the door closed and fan running. how we got away with that for one let alone a few days and not at least get kicked out if not arrested god only knows. did the hotel staff suspect anything and look the other way, or were they clueless, one can only guess? as a stupid pot smoking young adult i dont think i even realized that i should have tipped the cleaning lady/staff..now i always tip the cleaning lady (if you can afford a hotel/motel room...). I am pretty sure we were dumb enough to even smoke pot while we had the plants there. But then again maybe that covered up the fresh plant smell.
PLease let pot stay illegal-it screws people up in ways the average person can not even imagine.we cant have the nation turn into one big cheech and chong movie..seriously pot can be a very dangerous and addictive drug (experience)

On a totally separate matter, it was unnerving to read the posts condemning people for having too many kids(e.g. liz-novenber 4,1:03 am), i absolutely agree with not deceiving the hotel staff but people make mistakes and children/families-big or small-are a blessing and should be celebrated..things happen and choosing to have a kid even in less than ideal circumstances is a lot better than the alternative. kids can be a great cure for bitterness and negativity for some.

Posted By pot is one helluva drug on November 4, 2010, 4:11 AM

I travel a lot. I also travel with an elderly mother, who is diabetic. I am also diabetic. We also wind up meeting up with someone and sharing a room. We did for a while not say anything, but now we have found that it's cheaper just to say somethinng. Especially since, and I know the housekeepers hate us, we go to Sci-fi conventions. With the costumes, makeup and all sooner or later we definately would get caught if we did not say anything about the extra guests. Yes, they were adults, but this year we are taken a child with us. To the managers, I have found it hard sometimes not to be nice to the hotel clerk. You try to be reasonable with them, it usually takes throwing a fit, before anything is done, and then its the last time we stay at that hotel. I have found that if you book on-line and call the hotel right away, the hotel is accomadating. This year we booked on-line a smoking room. When we called in advance (same day), we discovered that the room was not handicapped accesible, we were able to change the room. Which was not a problem, because we were willing to smoke outside. The only issue we did have with this particular hotel was that the back door was unlocked, you didn't need your key to get in. Safety issues in my opinion. One room we booked this year, my mistake, we booked on different days. I called ahead and explained the problem, and they were able to make certain we had the same room both days. I'll tell you anytime we go to a new convention, this one was in Riverside, we always make a mistake. No offense, but we did discover it would have been cheaper to stay in Riverside, than to stay in the town we did. There werre no buses, and we had to ask for a ride back to the town we were staying in. Next year, we will stay in the hotel in Riverside and enjoy the casino while we are at it. Heck I wound up saving money on the convention itself, by volunteering. Though I should say in the hotels defense, the one we stayed at, the clerk allowed us to use her personal phone to call our ride, seeing as the number was long distance. Then she assisted us in finding the taxi #s. Being kind to the clerks and treating them like they are human goes a long way. Though I must say, I wished they had a pool at the other 2 hotels. OMG Let me add, one of the hotels we stayed at we arrived early, we were exhausted, they had a nice lounge, and they didn't mind that we fell asleep in their lounge while waiting on the room. Although the continental breakfast was over, they allowed us to have something to eat while waiting on the room. I must say I have forgotten that we can leave tips for the maids, in the future we will make certain to do so. However, we too are on a budget, and usually it is very tight. We pay for our room a year in advance, plan our meals, and then buy gift cards for the resturaunts, and put the money on them in advance, and we pay for the convention in advance, so normally we don't have enough money to leave a tip. We hit the fastfood resturaunts, so we can save money, ie... no tipping. Just some advice for the families with children, this will help you save money and you don't have to pay for it all at once. We are on a fixed income, and we go to 4 conventions a year.

Posted By T'Anna on November 4, 2010, 4:18 AM

It's a safety thing> If there were to be a fire the hotel would need to take a head count of all guests, those not listed, might be missed

Posted By Betty on November 4, 2010, 4:28 AM

ok so like where do i begin ok yes i am guilty of doing it and read all of the coments on here (wow was i bored) and some of you people are so freaking rude i couldnt believe how rude you are. well yes i can i probally talk to you rude people on the phone where i work. so guess what i will keep being guilty of it and if you or anyone else on here doesnt like it tough! suck it up. lower your rates for families and i wont have to. also a lot of you had good ideas about the inflateable beds and portacribs i use them myself and they work great.

Posted By suzanne on November 4, 2010, 4:44 AM

Animal-lovers, I understand you are travelling with your pet. Please tell the hotel about your pet. Please think of the people with allergies staying in the room after you! Allergies can be life-threatening. My husband had to be rushed to the hospital when we stopped at a hotel that had a doggy-affected room. It takes months (and sometimes years) for dander left from an animal to not affect my husband.

The convenience of having your pet in the room at a discount is not worth risking a human life, is it?

Posted By Requiem on November 4, 2010, 4:59 AM

My wife and I were traveling with our African Gray Parott a few years ago. He was caged and harmless, but the motel we pulled into did not accept pets. We checked in, drove the car to the entry to the room and smuggled the bird in with us. The next day we had to visit some friends, so left the bird in the motel room. I went to the front desk, and asked that they not allow the maid into our room. The reason I gave was that my wife and I worked for NASA, had computers set up in our room, and were tracking satellites. We were afraid that the maid might accidentally trip on a wire and disconnect something. The motel clerk bought the story and no one came in our room while we were away. We both laugh when we tell that true story to friends.

Posted By Winston O'Boogie on November 4, 2010, 8:16 AM

I'm so glad I'm childfree. My husband and I have wonderful, peaceful vacations..... *TOGETHER*.

Posted By Allie on November 4, 2010, 8:34 AM

My dad always does this with me and my brothers we have even lived in a non extension hotel and my dad did not even sneak all we did was walk in with our dog cat and mice us and the animals were not mentioned but when we would watch them cleqn the room they would not even say a thing

Posted By Alexis on November 4, 2010, 8:59 AM

"On a totally separate matter, it was unnerving to read the posts condemning people for having too many kids(e.g. liz-novenber 4,1:03 am)"

Not condemning, just saying that there are certain things to keep in mind before having a ton of children (i.e. travel/vacations/etc.). More kids=more expense. That's a fact of life. People should accept that before having the kids, instead of cheating fire codes and making their kids sleep on disgusting hotel floors or packed into a single bed like animals and such.

Posted By Liz on November 4, 2010, 9:04 AM

As a single parent of four young children, there is absolutely no way I will stay in a place where I am told to put underaged children in a room alone. If they aren't old enough to travel alone, children should be allowed to room with parents, no questions asked.

Posted By Ms. Nona on November 4, 2010, 10:03 AM

The problem with not disclosing your children is more than meets the eye.

1. The motel is offering your room the next guest based on how long they anticipate it will take to clean. Cleaning after 5 people (including 3 children)takes more than twice as long as just 2 adults. What if you were the next customer waiting an ususally long time for your room to be ready while you get frustrated and blame the motel.

2. The motel has occupancy limits. Depending on the situation you could put the motel in danger of exceeding it limits and being in violation of fire code.

3. You rob the motel of its' entitled revenue. With all the engines selling rooms, the motels have to accept these bookings to compete, and in some cases, barely survive as it is. You expect premium service for half the price.

4. My last question is a moral one. When you buy milk for your family, do you just pay for one gallon and put the other in your purse? So do you not steal milk because it harder to get away with or because it is wrong? At what point do you stop stealing and look at yourself, instead of society?

Posted By Anthony Gairo on November 4, 2010, 10:24 AM

Much like some previous posters suggested, not disclosing the number of children that are sleeping in a specific room is a safety concern. If the hotel were to catch fire, how would the fire department know which rooms to check first - children will always be attempted to pull out first. When my husband and I traveled this past summer, we just called the hotel we were booking with an asked if a third child was acceptable or not. The manager had no issues with us bringing our third child along and we co-sleep with our youngest, so we didn't need a roll-away bed or pack-n-play.

Posted By L on November 4, 2010, 10:57 AM

"packed into a single bed like animals and such."

You do realize that some families DO choose to co-sleep with their children and more often than not, a lot of children co-sleep with thieir siblings at home as well.

My husband and I share sleep with our youngest, just as we did with our two older boys. Now that our older boys are out of our bed, they share a bed as well. We can afford two seperate beds for them, in fact they have two beds in their rooms, but they choose to sleep together.

What is with society in thinking that children should be expected to sleep alone, but their parents are expected to sleep together? Our country's views are "@$$-backwards."

Posted By L on November 4, 2010, 11:01 AM

To those of you I have noticed requesting where another stayed while visiting DISNEYLAND..I will tell you I have stayed at those $69.00 per night rooms, & I have since used Disney Resort Hotels. Add it up..room, meals,travel,parking admission fees, extra fes to each area in disney plus the travel busses, momorails and boat become no extra costs....now be smart and book in a DISNEY RESORT ..many different ones with everyones budget in mind & the service quality & entire trip. Plus you get extra hour in before gates open & some nights different areas stay open later for resort guests. Travel agencies do not cost you anything & are well worth the time to help you with meal planning, and special events you would not know about on your own.. Have fun & consider this. you'll love it.

Posted By lynn on November 4, 2010, 1:32 PM

As a manager in a top select service hotel chain for 6 years, most of these comments are simply irritating. I mean no offense, but I dont know any hotel associates that intend to "make life difficult" or "choose to not meet guest needs." Rules are in place for a reason, again, not to piss anyone off. Maximum occupancy is not set by any associate staff or higher ups. It is set by the local state fire marshall office. These things are based on square footage and sleep surfaces. There may be a hotel with a king bed and sofabed that can accommodate 4 people, others with the same beds can accommodate 3 people. Others may be different. Again, not set by the hotel. We are in this business because we WANT to take care of people, you, our guests. Your tyrants about us not giving you everything you want doesnt help. You want us to break the rules and threaten us when you dont get your way... then get upset and write or call the headquarters office and say we're rude. Seriously people...

Yes, please request the things you want... but on a busy leisure weekend, there are going to be requests for 50 fridges, 35 rollaways, 30 sets of connecting rooms, etc... this simply isnt possible. Most hotels will never guarantee any of these things... because we simply cannot guarantee it. You dont reserve a specific room, you reserve a specific TYPE of room. We will ALWAYS try and meet every one of your needs, please understand this isnt always possible!

To all those guests who understand this and appreciate the efforts of the hotel staff, a big thank you. We appreciate your understanding.

Posted By Jason on November 4, 2010, 7:50 PM

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